▼▼▼ The Department Of Cute And Weird: Xydexx ▼▼▼ ([info]xydexx) wrote,
@ 2008-03-13 13:40:00
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Why Flaming People Online Is Boring
Back when I was in high school (these were the days when 300 baud modems were all the rage... I suspect I've been online since before many of you were even born) *waves cane* we used to have these things called BBSs. This was in the days before this newfangled internet thing became popular.

Now, being the sort of huge geeks who ran or called BBSs in the first place, one could say we weren't exactly the most popular kids in high school. And a lot of these local BBSs had war boards dedicated to flaming other users for no good reason at all. So after school we'd log on and trade insults with other geeks as a way of making ourselves feel better. (This is kinda why I think the whole trading insults with other geeks online thing is so twenty years ago... I've been there, seen that, yawn and sigh.)

I don't remember what prompted it, but eventually some of us geeks got the idea that there must be more to this online stuff that just flaming each other all the time. So we started to meet each other offline (those of us who lived reasonably close, anyway). And we had fun. A lot more fun than sitting behind our computers flaming each other, certainly.

So that led to more of us getting together offline. And more of us having fun. Geeks who lived further away joined our merry band, and our group continued to grow. Eventually, there were parties. Soon we had a band of about 40-something geeks spanning two counties showing up (40 may not seem like much, but remember, this was before the AOLization of the online world... modems were still very much a geek toy). After making plans online, we descended on local arcades or movie theaters or had picnics in the park and whatever else we could think of. Hiking. Exploring abandoned places. Seeing how many highway cones we could acquire in one evening (and then wondering where we'd like to redirect traffic with them afterward). Our New Year's Eve party lasted three days.

We were geeks, yeah, but we were social. (Demented and sad, but social.)

And what happened to the geeks who still wanted to hang around in front of their computers trading insults? I don't know. They missed out on most of this, I'm afraid, and we were too busy off having fun to notice their absence.



Like all good things, this had to come to an end eventually. In 1988, many of us headed off to college and our merry band was for the most part scattered to the four winds. Some of us still keep in touch here and there.

I guess the point of this story is that it doesn't really matter if you're a gamer geek or an anime geek or a furry geek. We're all geeks, and geeks today have a choice: They can either sit around behind their computer screens flaming other geeks to make themselves feel better, or they can get out and meet their fellow geeks and find out what they, and the real world, has to offer.


Lord Rancer, TBC, DASBS, at Kensico Dam in 1987 --- WWW.XYDEXX.COM
Lord Rancer preparing to throw a watermelon off Kensico Dam, circa 1987.


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[info]krrrven
2008-03-13 05:52 pm UTC (link)
Xy:

This won't make much sense...but thank you.

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[info]zorinlynx
2008-03-13 06:17 pm UTC (link)
I remember war boards. We could be tearing each other new ones for no reason there while we discuss more important things all friendly-like in the other forums.

It was a great way to get the adolescent need to be annoying out without actually BEING annoying. ;)

Those were fun times...

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[info]kurradragon
2008-03-13 06:24 pm UTC (link)
Hooah hooah hooah.

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[info]somebunny
2008-03-13 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Oh memories... there was a BBS called RAT City in Seattle back in the day. We used to have monthly 'GTs' as we refered to them. Get togethers at the Seattle Center Food Court. We took over this little balcony and talked and drew and made mischief.

I recently re-found a few of that crew with the interweb. Yay interweb. :)

Those were the days...

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[info]xydexx
2008-03-13 07:09 pm UTC (link)
We used to invade the Galleria Mall in White Plains, NY every weekend for a while. In later years there were UMOWs (User Meeting On Wheels) which involved driving around to wherever and getting into whatever sort of mischief we felt like that evening—eating pizza in the cemetery ("great place, lousy company") or hanging out at the dam or whatever.

The dams (Kensico or Croton) were one of my favorite places to hang out because something would inevitably get throw off the top of it and make an entertaining mess. (This is something we probably couldn't get away with in the post-9/11 world we live in today.)

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[info]silveradept
2008-03-13 06:56 pm UTC (link)
Yep. Those who join up new find that it's fun to flame each other. And then they grow up, and the flaming mostly goes away, or at least gets decently sophisticated. But there's still only a finite supply of "Your Mother" jokes in existence.

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[info]xydexx
2008-03-13 07:03 pm UTC (link)
It's kinda how [info]rigelkitty and I got burned out on stuff like South Park and Spike & Mike Sick & Twisted Animation Festival and Wonder Showzen... it was funny at first because it was so shocking... then the initial shock wore off and we started realizing it was just more of the same. And that got a bit boring after a while, so we stopped watching.

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[info]silveradept
2008-03-13 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. Knowing that it's the same joke, just in different situations does get pretty boring after a while. And merely upping the ante to be more shocking just doesn't really work out all that well.

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[info]mikosquirrel
2008-03-13 11:59 pm UTC (link)
If you ask me, the problem with South Park is more that they ran out of actual jokes and started just substituting swearing and cocks and farts, which never works.

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[info]przxqgl
2008-03-13 07:45 pm UTC (link)
IAWT

and it's interesting that you chose a picture of a Ritual Vegetable Sacrifice to go along with it... 8)

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[info]pyat
2008-03-13 08:44 pm UTC (link)
I used to attend Barren Realms lunches with BBSers across the area code. I remember how amazed we were when one of us turned out to be a 50ish grandmother with white hair and an enormous collection of SF novels.

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[info]grlsctgnbad
2008-03-13 08:54 pm UTC (link)
I used to love playing on BBSs in college. I had my faves. Skynet and ISCA. What was scary is most of the people I would talk to on these boards based all over the world were actually in other labs or somewhere else on campus.

Thanks for bringing up fond memories, Pony!

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[info]anarqueso
2008-03-13 09:28 pm UTC (link)
Oh, oh, look how young they were! And I kind of thought of them as big, older dudes at the time!

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[info]amilori
2008-03-13 10:06 pm UTC (link)
but I had an arpanet acct from '76 to '85, when I headed off for college. You're young.

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[info]elric_dewisant
2008-03-13 11:57 pm UTC (link)
*pulls his up next to you in his walker*

I hear that. I've been online (off and on) since I was 10. 1982, and Idaho State University had just been hooked into ARPANET, via NASA U....errrrr.....Utah State University (Logan UT). Both my parents were takign classes at ISU, and while my sister got a human babysitter, I got the mainframe lab in the basement of the College of Business (interestingly, a building designed to look kinda like an old computer punch-card!). I even remember being online when AOL was dumped onto ARPANET, creating the eentarwebs. I cried.

Now, as far as flame wars, I partially disagree with you. Like anything, it has it's place and reasons. Me, I'll flame for two reasons. One is railing against rampant stupidity, asshattery, ignorance, or just general douche-y-ness. The other, is just because I'm an old fart at this internet thing. Once in a while, I like to wind someone (always a random stranger) up, just for the sake of winding them up and watching the show. It's amazing how much subtle power one well placed, barely snarky comment can have when nonchalantly tossed like a grenade from the dark into a room full of (relative) n00bs. It breaks the monotony. But not something to to ALL the damn time.

BTW - Good to see you back. I wondered what happened to you and have missed reading your bike posts and such!

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[info]xydexx
2008-03-14 01:39 am UTC (link)
Oooh, ARPANET. Old school. -=) I went from CompuServe/PeopleLink to local BBSs to Usenet/FurryMUCK.

I am still lurking about and my bike riding posts can lately be found at [info]milepost38.

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[info]elric_dewisant
2008-03-20 01:52 pm UTC (link)
ARPANET, then later, when I moved to Seattle (the first major place I lived after Pocatello that had anything resembling access to teh eentarwebs) I frequented the old 28BarbaryLane BBC. After that, it was plain old, NON-AOL eentarwebs.

Added your cycling LJ. I have a couple questions. How far afield to you bike? My family had a property (that's still intact, but not in the family, anymore) down somewhere around Jamestown or Mary City VA (My father's side came over to Jamestown in 1620, and survived the 1622 massacre by moving to Mary City, 2 weeks before the Jamestown Massacre). Always wanted to see the property (called Hampfield) but at the rate things are going, I'll never make it out there. Just a small thought.

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[info]xydexx
2008-03-20 05:58 pm UTC (link)
I mostly take day trips out of Leesburg (i.e., leave from Leesburg in the morning, bike all day, then return to Leesburg in the evening). I've been known to haul my bike by car as far out as Maryland, Pennsylvania, and New York, though.

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[info]jirris_midvale
2008-03-14 05:07 am UTC (link)
I guess the point of this story is that it doesn't really matter if you're a gamer geek or an anime geek or a furry geek. We're all geeks, and geeks today have a choice: They can either sit around behind their computer screens flaming other geeks to make themselves feel better, or they can get out and meet their fellow geeks and find out what they, and the real world, has to offer.



Thank you. This is something I've been saying for a while. The primary reason I find a lot of the bullshit tasteless boils down to the fact that many of us are cut from the same cloth. Somewhere along the line, some of us decided to use aggression as a cure for loneliness. That makes me very sad.

Thank you.

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